Props to Mike Wallace. Team Player.

its the little things that he doesnt do that drives me crazy. if he comes back for that pass in the Cleveland game than he probably gets the PI call. i just dont see that effort. i said i another post that if he was the one that caught that short pass that Miller caught i doubt He scores. he probably runs out of bounds.

if it is a mental thing than that really scares me. imagine him in the super bowl. imagine him in the same position Holmes was in a few years back. does he make that catch? remember Holmes missed the 1st pass Ben through to him for the td and that was an easier catch. Holmes for all his faults he didnt hang his head and he came out made one of the greatest super bowl catches of all time. put Wallace in that position? are we talking about a Steeler team with 5 rings or 6?

 

Just so we get our physics and anatomy squared away here...if a trailing defender is hit in the helmet with a pass slowing down does not result in being hit in the a$$, it results in the ball hitting Wallace in the face and probably a penalty.

 

You don't justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. You can ask my wife how furious I was when Sanders fumbled that ball. Who has dropped the most balls this year on this team? AB, Sanders, or Wallace? I love all the Wallace apologists who are equally as comical as us "haters" and "bashers". I love to sing the praises of a guy that went 3 games and between them all only had 7 catches. Dang man we need to be giving that guy some MAD LOVE! What a great player! As a matter of fact I think we need to give him about $100 million. Yeah AB cost us a game against the Raiders but Wallace cost us a game against the Ravens. Also we should all love Mendy and think he's great too when MIKE TOMLIN, NOT JUST A GUY ON A MESSAGE BOARD, DEACTIVATES HIM. We should all appreciate what he's done for us LAST YEAR and just totally forget what he has done for us THIS YEAR. Why does Mike Wallace whine and say we need to go deep more? Why does it matter the route? Is that all he can do? Why is he not content with slants and underneath stuff? I don't hear AB saying that. He just goes out and runs his routes and that's that. But would it make you feel better if I also "bashed" AB? Most of the people on here stick to with the facts when talking about Wallace. If anything you need to blame the facts for "bashing". Don't shoot the messenger. Like I've said before. Go watch Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald and tell me if you think Wallace deserves to be paid on that level.

 

Obviously I am the biggest Wallace REALIST(or "basher") on this board but even I say that he had NO chance to catch that ball. Now what about that ball on the sidelines? It literally hit him in the hands. Sanders also had one hit him in the hands that he dropped. I can't think of one that AB just flat out dropped. However he did throw a really stupid INT but he's not a qb so that just is what it is. But Wallace did have a TD in the Colts game last year and in the Packers and Vikes game in 09 so we probably should give him $100 million. Man soooo many people are soooo quick to forget just how many great things Wallace has done. Yeah he's dropping balls like crazy but he had a great FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON last year so let's all hope the Rooney's make it rain on him!

 

Now, this is what you said earlier:

So, which do you want? Do you want Wallace to continue with the swagger that makes him the WR leading in TDs that would probably lead to him making such a catch... Or... do you want him hanging his head? Mind you, Holmes was thrown a catchable ball in the corner of the end zone, in the winning drive of SB43.

It just seems that there're contradicting arguments.... whatever makes Wallace look bad.

Let's talk about AB's abyssmal drops: one in his hands that he tried to lean over for... maybe he should have dove the way everyone says Wallace should have? How about AB missing the deep bomb that went right through his outstretched hands? He didn't even try to close his hands around the ball and he looked somewhat silly running looking straight up!

And Sanders with the ghost fumble!

Dwyer (for the Mendy haters): Batch throws the INT in the end zone, and, instead of tackling the catch to put the Ravens on their own 2 yard line, Dwyer goes for a ball-strip. Huh????

I like all our players... Wallace and AB... Mendy and Dwyer... I just don't need to dog the hell out of them for making understandable mistakes. Especially when, for all their faults, miscues, and blown plays, the Steelers are in the hunt for a wild card playoff spot in which they control their own destiny.

 

I'm sure the original post is sarcasm...everyone can see Wallace needs to go. He's not Steeler material.

 

My point is that I'm obviously biased against Wallace and I love AB. Thanks, ruckus, for helping me understand that. How foolish can I be to believe that Wallace did not negotiate with the Steelers in good faith. I mean, the Steelers have a reputation for being unfair to their up and coming star players. What was I thinking? And that 5 year / $50 million contract offer. Are you serious?? Who could blame Wallace for thumbing his nose at that anemic offering. Come on Khan! Who do you think you're dealing with here, John Stallworth or Lynn Swann?? This ain't the 70s and ain't nobody never seen the kind of speed Wally boy brings to the table. All those other skills, route running, hands, yards after catch are overrated. It all makes sense now. Why couldn't I see it before? And, ruckus, you've helped me realize that ALL great receivers take plays off. Just look at Randy Moss. And besides, what if Wallace were to hurt himself fighting a DB for an underthrown ball?? Where would that leave us? It's all so clear now. The criticism that I've been dishing out against Mikey is downright unfair and unjustified. And it took you, ruckus, to help me understand that. It's obvious to me now that MW has arrived. He's absolutely right. And once you've arrived, there's nowhere else to go. Mr. Rooney, get your checkbook ready. We cannot let this guy get away. Howard Cosell used to call Lynn Swann the "practically perfect wide receiver". BUT, Howard Cosell never met the embodiment of WR perfection known as Young Money!

 

Jack is on the Attack! I agree with what you said though.

 

Mike Wallace is not a #1 WR. At least not in Pittsburgh. Let him go somewhere else like Nate Washington did of he wants to be the #1. How about a straight up trade with KC for Bowe?

 

I like Bowe as well but one of Wallace's six fans or so the other day said it was stupid to think that Bowe could be more of a well rounded receiver than Wallace. But in some people's minds Wallace is the new and improved Jerry Rice and all others should be forced to worship him.

 

Great post. Kind of captures my thoughts on the matter exactly.

 

I like Mike Wallace, I think he has a place with the Steelers
But I am afraid Mike and his agent have other ideas and values in mind
for Mike. He and his agent have overvalued his worth,Nobody is holding a gun
to the Rooney's head and saying give me 50 mill or else. Offer him
a fair contract which will be below AB's and if he is not happy with it
we will look for somebody else.

 

Actually there were reports that his agent was upset with him for not taking the Rooney's initial reported offer of $50 million. After the egg he has laid this year I would say that his agent is REEEEEALLY upset with him because if he wants to stay a Steeler he's not even gonna be sniffing $50 million. Well not unless AB lets him sniff his money that is.

 

This is it in a nutshell. I think he has a place here, too. Offer him what he's worth (we did) - but it's not $100 million.

 

i see everyone wants rid of mendy and wallace. who will make up all the TD's these two have been making over the last couple of years?

 

Actually verticals are done by having a guy reach as high as he can that becomes the starting point,then the guy gets to jump and the difference between his reach and the point he touches is his vertical...

So the bottom line is a guy who is 6 FT. with 3 FT. Arms and a 3 Ft vertical can get to 12 Feet off the ground,,and that # is low because that is standing flat footed not being able too use speed to increase your jump....

We know Wallace is capable of getting up to the 11 or 12 foot mark at least the only real question was how high was that ball off the ground?Again I know it wasn't 15 Feet so anything in the 12 Foot range deserved a shot...Same as that low ball in the other game it hit him in the foot basically and he made no effort.....Not what you want from your WR..Esp. a WR who thinks he is 1 of the best in the NFL..

 

maybe if his arm is coming out the top of his head.

 

Not sure what the actual height of the ball was, but in the replay you can clearly see it flying over his head without being a wide angle shot. My issue with him is that he didn't even attempt to jump - sorta like "if it isn't in my hands, I'm not even going to try". A little effort, even if in vain, would have been nice.

 

how in the heck is this his fault? charlie needed to get the ball close. the guy was wide open. charlie just missed him badly.

 

Good point so say 11 feet standing....Again how much higher could he get while running?We have a guy on the HS Team who can touch the top of square running and can barely get over the rim standing flat footed,that's a increase os 2 feet at least,so again the true question is how high was the ball when it went over his head?

Was it catchable maybe not?Was it worth a better effort?Absoloutley...I guurentee Fitz or Megatron would have got some air and made a real effort to catch that ball..

That's my problem with Wallace he doesn''t give maximum effort to catch balls or to make blocks or to run routes...I have seen many routes when a 4.5 CB is right in his pocket,how can that be if Wallace runs a 4.2?Only 1 answer I can come up with and that's he is not running as fast as he is capable of running....

 

Can someone please get a print screen of the ball thrown 10 feet over wallace's head in the endzone so we can discuss if he could have been able to grab it.

 

A bad throw by your BU QB that's for sure...The problem is no fight for the ball skills from your suppose to be stud WR...How many picks have we seen where it seems Wallace gives no effort to break it up or to fight for the ball?The bottom line is if he wants to be elite he has a long,long,long, way to go....And I suggest he starts with his effort ,followed by learning how to catch the ball at it's highest point,followed by getting stronger so he can get off the line,followed by learning how to run crisper routes....If he does this he has a chance to become elite,if he doesn't we have seen the best of Wallace....IMO we have seen his best I fear his nind set will not allow him to grow and get better,he thinks he is at the top of his game already....His work on tape proves that he is far from that and until he realizes that he is going to continue to go down hill every year he gets older....As speed is his talent at this point and as that speed slows his WR production will slow as well ....Unless he does the things above..