Kenny by the numbers

It's this lovely thing called confirmation bias. People knowing that rookie QB's aren't usually that good and just using preconceived notions via scouting reports against him.

 

I guess the QB room is pissed at Tomlin feel they were treated unfairly and not given a fair shot. I’d say no Mitch and Mason you both just suck and have had ample examples of it. KP hasn’t been good but he’s only played 3 or 4 games and was drafted this year. TOMLIN is doing the right thing here we are not winning right now with any of these guys but the only one we could win with in the future is KP.

 

I would say the argument at least against Aikman was those Dallas teams were really bad in the late 80s the Steelers are supposedly loaded with weapons like Najee Pat F and the three great WRS.

 

Well, Pickett is being held back by a terrible coordinator and mediocre OLine.

 

I don’t disagree and my above point was tongue in cheek to a degree. I don’t think Najee DJ or Claypool are anywhere near as good as people claim them to be.

 

For sure. And to be fair, almost all QB's taken in the top 3 are going to teams that really have nothing around them.

 

Hell Claypool claimed he was a top 3 WR in all the NFL! Talk about a guy who needs to be drug tested.

 

Give Pickett the Oline Ben had and he’d shred teams apart.

 

That's pure speculation. He's had time to throw the ball and still throws Ints. He's a rookie QB. He is going to make mistakes. We should see a progression as the season goes on. At some point we needed to make a change at QB. Mason was not the answer and he's the guy that should have been ready to step up to the starting role. The fact that the Steelers signed Trubs shows you that they didn't have any confidence in him at all. So back to the drawing board. Kenny is the guy they think will be their starter going forward. We'll see what happens the rest of this year.

 

I have to agree with this. The problem isn't so much the blocking, it's the route trees of the receivers. Pickett's most precise throw of the season was to Muth down the seam this past Sunday. Pickett was 32-44 for 70%, so it's not like he's gawd awful. It was simply bad decisions down the stretch.

 

You know, I can make a spreadsheet say anything I want. It's easy.

So, here's the issue in the analysis.
This NFL is not the NFL it was 5 years ago. We cannot compare Terry Bradshaw to Kenny Pickett, it is not the same game.
Last year, Jalen Hurts didn't belong behind center, he was most definitely the worst QB in the playoffs and was eliminated because of that.
He was a rookie.
This year, although it makes me sick to my stomach to admit this, he has elevated his game, though nowhere near the hype he gets, but he can manage a good team.
Key words = "Good Team"

Kenny does pass the eye test as he certainly appears to play at a higher level than Hurts did his rookie year.
Worst case, you could say as good.

Pittsburgh hasn't had a lot of "great QB's" - since the 70's there is Bradshaw and Ben.
Stewart makes me ill. He was excellent as the slash but cannot even hold the jocks of the aforementioned.
Stewart was a groundbreaker in the QB era, as he did change mindsets for mobile QB's. (Vick, Cunningham, a few others come to mind)

Finding a franchise QB is not easy and if you gamble on a guy you have to do some preparations to give him the best chances to 'catch on.'
Play solid defense - We are 50-50 there.
Run the ball well - We are subpar
Solid Special Teams plays (you want your guy to kick FG's and your punter keeping the other team deep) We are 50-50 there.

I might add Offensive Coordinator and QB coach are important too. You want to offense to work to the QB's strengths and the QB coach to be coaching in between plays and building this guy up.

 

Look at his throws from the pocket vs when he’s on the move or throwing which moving backwards. That’s where his INTs come from. Look at the throw to Muth as he stood in the pocket. He needs to be in a different system. They have him in a Lamar Jackson type offense. That’s not him.

 

I think the kid is playing well. It's tough to be a rookie QB, even in this era. Some of his mistakes he'll learn from, and others you see every week across the league. The fact that he's playing as well as he is within the context of the team is impressive. When I watch him play I'm reminded of the good aspects of Tony Romo's game.

 

He’s going to throw lots of completions when most throws are 3 yards downfield. His YPA is 6….. that’s awful. Although to be fair it’s probably a lot more about the high school playbook Canada is running than it’s Kenny being dump down Pickett.

 

He’s made mistakes which is to be expected. He’s also done some things that makes me think that he can be a special quarterback. Time will tell.

 

The Steelers have a ton of weapons and that's a fact. But they're not utilized properly due to a very weak and predictable play-caller. Look at how great Najee *can* be, but we don't use his pass catching talents, we run him up the gut on first down constantly, we call too many jet sweeps, etc. We have talent WRs, but when the line holds up (it usually doesn't) we're not using their big play ability to threaten the field. Pat F is already a splendid TE, but we don't call his number enough. That's not factoring in our bad line, either. The Steelers have a great defense and nice weapons. But Pickett is still in a tough situation, regardless of any Aikman comparison.

 

You will never hear me argue about how bad Matt Canada is. How this guy was hired in the first place should be embarrassing for MT

 

When KP goes 3 and out, it's a start and the hope is he gets better. When MT goes 3 and out, people feel that he is as good as he's going to get. One is hope, the other is history. Hence, the difference. However, this is a temporary phenomenon if this becomes on going/history for KP. JMO>

 

Exactly. Canada is just like a front man for the desires of those he works for. That is why he was/still is hired. Further cause to feel this way is the number of games this continues to happen and MTomlin stating he still has confidence in Canada. I assume the organization reviews each game in detail and would change things that needs to be changed. But they don't seem to. JMO>

 

correct - confirmation bias, the way our minds are far too often wired. time will tell, we can all make predictions and then wait and see. But Tomlin and Canada suck and that will not help this kid be successful. that is not confirmation bias, that is fact - LOL!!!

 

correct - it is blame Rooney first, then Tomlin (Rooney keeps the clown show in place....)

 

Tomlin hired Canada because he believes in him, and of course they're going to have a certain synergy in regards to philosophies. However, Canada is calling plays like he's secretly Pat Shurmur from last season. Tomlin isn't the one who decides that Pat F. is to be used so conservatively. Tomlin isn't the one who is calling jet sweeps, or spamming run plays on first down. I know that Tomlin has become polarizing, and the fact that Canada is our OC falls upon him, but the performance of Matt Canada is indefensible. He's just not a NFL caliber OC.

 

Stats can be skewed.... but they can also tell the story.... you are what your record says you are .... even in your defense of him (which I agree with) you say you are excited by the "POSSIBILITIES"..... not the realities.

But again my reason for the original post was more to share the data.. and the data says no matter how you FEEL the reality is no matter the QB the offense performs almost exactly the same... which IMO goes back to OC

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