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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Madmike77, Oct 11, 2022.

  1. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Somebody will be getting the blame for sure. Who do you feel it should be? Isn't somebody supposed to ensure we do have some kind of viable depth? Just curious.
     
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  2. OB1

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    I don't agree. IMO, it's best to use Fitzpatrick to maximize his impact. What good does it do to have him play at the LOS on 3rd and 8?

    Seems like his job on that play was to spy on the RB... Wouldn't be easier/safer for Norwood to spy on the RB than all-world Fitzpatrick?

    BTW, RB stayed in to block given that it was 3rd and 8 and the pass was deep inside Bills endzone - it's obvious Bills would go max protect there. In what world does it make sense to have Fitzpatrick cover a RB in that situation?

    Also, if you look at the play, both steeler safeties came up to cover a short pass. Neither dropped deep. Seems like the coverage that was called asked them to cover a medium pass. Even 35 is not dropping deep.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     

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  3. Hardini68

    Hardini68 Well-Known Member

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    At this point does it matter ?
     
  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    No team has enough depth to handle injuries to its top six defensive backs.

    To be fair, I think Sutton and Fitzpatrick will play, but both were limited by their injuries last week and I expect that to be the case again when they play Tampa.
     
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  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't just spying on the running back. Remember who is back there at quarterback. Your argument doesn't address the problem I brought up, which is you can't just put Fitzpatrick as the deep safety every play because it makes life far too easy on Allen.

    If the coverage design wasn't for Norwood to make sure nobody gets behind him, then yes, that's a very bad idea. I'm just not sure that is the case. I think he stepped up when he shouldn't have, leaving him flat-footed as the receiver blew by him.

    Also, it was third-and-11, not eight.
     
  6. SteelerGlenn

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    Half the fan base? Lol.
    I think did you pull your head out of your ass for a minute you’ll realize that the majority of the Fanbase at (at least the ones here)are ready to move on from Tomlin. But you keep trying to push this B.S. narrative to help you cope with the fact that you can’t do anything about it.
     
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  7. DJ18Baller

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    You are just playing both sides fool. One post you say it’s time to get rid of him and the next you are defending him and making excuses for him. So which is it Glemm?
     
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  8. SteelerGlenn

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    No I’m not. You are so blinded by your hatred for Tomlin that you won’t allow the possibility that He’s not to blame for everything. It’s called being objective and sensible bro.
     
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  9. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    He’s the head coach he says it’s his show and he is in charge both offensively and defensively. So if that’s the case should he not be the number 1 culprit for this **** show? Art 3 certainly gets his share of the blame but you can’t fire the owner.
     
  10. SteelerGlenn

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    Point is he does do some things well at times, but how often do you give credit for that?
    Seriously look at the percentage of your posts that have something negative to say about Tomlin or something negative about the team in general.
     
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  11. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Fair but when you win 3 playoff games in 12 years and counting (God only knows the next time we even make the playoffs) yes there is a lot of negativity. The direction this team is going in I’m finding it very hard to see many positives. Getting rid of this coaching staff and going in a new fresh direction would at least offer hope, something I have not had since the JAX playoff debacle.
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    I get all that and I'm not at all happy about it.
     
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  13. CK 13

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    Fixed it for you. Fitzpatrick and Sutton are the only two. The others are worth a ham sandwich. And not good ham either.
     
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  14. CK 13

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    :roflmao: Well that 98 yarder TD was easy just like the rest of his day. But for you it's not about the coaches and scheme. Sorry but again having Fitzpatrick in the BOX was dumb, Just dumb.
     
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  15. Karl

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    I hate that play so much.
    On 3rd and 10, most any Defense would suspect a safe run or a safety valve pass. But this is the Bills and Josh Allen.
    Steelers Rush 4 and 2 delayed for run support. They split the field.

    Screenshot 2022-10-12 073001.jpg

    When the RB goes right, 39's job is to not allow Allen to escape, so he's in his lane.

    Screenshot 2022-10-12 073310.jpg


    This is very Frustrating. (Sorry for the blurry pic, I just grabbed the highlights.)
    Davis has beat the double - This drives me nuts. It is sort of a bad communication deal (who's over and who's under)
    Norwood and Sutton - It's double coverage all the way.
    What is not shown, Norwood take a chuck at Davis and this slows Norwood down, Wallace is beat at the line basically. 2 backups.
    Credit where credit is due, the Bills dialed it in, Allen was perfect.
    I think if you asked Allen what he saw and he might say, 'Wallace had outside leverage and Norword was too close to the line to catch up.' (playing run?)
    This is why you have to be at your best to play this team.
    Screenshot 2022-10-12 073544.jpg
     
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  16. FeartheBeard

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    I will be there so maybe they will pick me out of the stands and have me suit up :)
     
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  17. CK 13

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    Well it's my nose to. It's reality.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

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    I thought fixing quotes like that was a big no-no here. At least that's what I read from the mods.

    Regardless, I've been as critical as anybody here of Edmunds, but they are better off with him. The same is true of Witherspoon. Wallace is at least a competent NFL starter, and Kazee has been a big loss.

    Those guys aren't great, but they are much better than the replacements.
     
  19. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    I apologize. I will make my point going forward without altering the quote.
     
  20. Formerscribe

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    It's not a big deal to me. Just clarifying the point.

    I do get your point, that Sutton and Fitzpatrick are the only really good defensive backs they have. It's a fair point, but there is a drop-off from Edmunds, Witherspoon, Kazee, and Wallace to Norwood, Maulet, Pierre, and whatever other scrub they are sending out there to fill in. Norwood has been absolutely horrid since stepping in for Edmunds.
     
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  21. CK 13

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    Ain't that the truth! I'm no Edmonds fan and thought they should have let him go but he looks like an All Pro compared to what's behind him. Maybe Kazee when healthy can help?
     
  22. OB1

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    thanks for the analysis.

    the issue is what u said above: one team is conservative and expects the other teams to also turtle (alive in their fears), one team believes in their ability to win games….
     
  23. PWP

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    So the key to winning this week on Draftkings is a TB stack maybe even some bench RB to get a 100 yards once the game is out of hand by the 2nd. Quarter..
     
  24. Karl

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    Possibly.
    But the way I see it, the Defense was there, the execution was not. (2 backups fell short)

    If I look at it through Buffalo's glasses, it is a high risk - high reward call. I know I have that play, I know Pittsburgh has some backups in the game and I have Josh Allen who right now is playing as the best of the best.

    Pittsburgh in the older days, could generate pressure with 4 and Troy would have been on Allen forcing him to throw quicker.
    Those Defenses had a mindset how could they score on the offense in that kind of situation.
     
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  25. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    We desperately need better CB's.

    All our DB's ... it feels like they all have a ranking of 60 in Madden. We needs some 80's and 90's out there bruh!!!!!
     
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