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Pickett vs 2023 QB class

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfire, Oct 8, 2022.

  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    You trust our FO to draft the right CB? I don’t.
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Different GM, and We can't just stop drafting them because We have failed before. :shrug:
    Should the Browns, Chicago, and Ravens 2 name a few stop drafting Qbs???
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Come on Shaner, lets just keep drafting better prospect QB’s each year then. If they take a QB in the top 5 next draft they should fire Kahn. There is no guarantee whoever they take would be a can’t miss QB.

    The other positions that would be available in a top 5 pick are much more likely to hit than a QB. An elite level lineman for example.
     
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  4. SGSteeler

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    Need to go for that. FG isn’t guaranteed and we actually had the momentum. We’re down 3 scores either way
     
  5. Madmike77

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    The FO has changed. GM, assistant GM and the head of scouting all got their jobs post-draft, so they can’t be blamed for this mess.
     
  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    Given how some people are a bit down on Pickett after today need to be reminded that Pickett was playing with both hands tied behind his back. His Receivers not named George Pickens did little to assist him; doubly so with either simple to contested catches. To top it off, Matt Canada, as I said, is a problem; was rather. He is now a full blown issue. Why is he an issue now?!


    Problems can be solved. Issues cannot be barring extreme circumstances. Given how the Rooneys do not fire Coaches, my prediction from weeks back could be in play. Mike Sullivan should have a greater role in Offensive Playcalling whereas Matt Canada must have his play calling duties reduced if not taken away all together.



    Jettison Canada after seasons end.
     
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  7. Brandon556211

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    Dude played one game lol
     
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  8. DJ18Baller

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    I’m not really seeing people giving up on Pickett at least that’s how I’m perceiving this conversation. I’m seeing people ask if we have a top 3 pick and can land one of these QBs assuming Pickett is just average this year do we take a QB? It’s a fair question even if most likely the Steelers would trade down and give Pickett at least one more season.
     
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  9. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    You give Pickett 3 years before you "give up" on him. Right now it's about building a team around him; IE offensive line help (Paris Johnson is who I'd like to see).
     
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  10. Karl

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    Let's say the Steelers don't win again and own the first pick.

    What are the needs?
    We can see the secondary is a mess. the Depth is terrible.
    The Defensive Line needs so help
    The Offensive Line is better but not good.

    Normally I am not an advocate of trade downs, I want the marquee (TJ-esque) player on my roster.
    But in this case the QB's could benefit us but not the way some think... I trade down so someone can leapfrog someone at a cost.
    I don't want out of the first round though.

    I would like a top ranked DB.
    I would also like to find an OT.
    I want a LB.
    With the rest, I would stay along the line of scrimmage unless someone pops up that is exceptional (WR/TE)
    In Free Agency, I would like to shop for a WR.


    I think Austin is not my DC. (I am unimpressed with his Defense, even though I know injuries impact it. The run defense is awful)
    I'm not sure what do about Canada, yet.
     
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  11. bigbenhotness

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    Pickett is fine. We need a line for him to start. Too many holes to compete anytime soon
     
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  12. mikeyg

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    good questions and thoughts. Let's watch Pickett for 12 games and then revisit in January. If we win 3 or 4, we won't get a crack at those dudes anyhow.
     
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  13. mikeyg

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    yes
    and Najee isn't helping the team / offense whatsoever. Start Warren next week
     
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  14. FootballAnalyst98

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    there’s no way Pickett would be drafted over stroud. Idk about Levis either. He’s been in Convos as possibly going first.
     
  15. bigbenhotness

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    Najee is just hurt imo but yeah should sit
     
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  16. FootballAnalyst98

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    Pickett looks ok. Which is about where I thought he was pre draft. Just average. I don’t see anything special or something that stands out.
     
  17. JackAttack 5958

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    Yeah, and there’s no way Drew Brees would have been drafted over Ryan Leaf. There are no guarantees in the NFL. Pickett seems to have the makings of a very good NFL quarterback so let’s allow his career to develop a little before we start talking about drafting a QB in 2023 when we have so many other needs available!
     
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  18. FootballAnalyst98

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    cause of size with drew Brees. Not ability. Pickett vs stroud is not about size but talent and ability. I see a decent starter. Do you see some of these guys and their level of talent currently playing like Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Lamar, etc… I don’t ever see Pickett being on that level. He’s a guy that with the right pieces around him he could probably get you there but a lot would seem to have to go right.
     
  19. JackAttack 5958

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    Way too early for you to come to this conclusion. The dude threw fir 330 yards yesterday and had several drops. That defense was a very good defense in spite of being down a couple of starters. He stood tall in the pocket, didn’t panic, delivered a very catchable ball. He’s a good distributor of the football. He is the LEAST of our worries right now and it’s unbelievable that we’re taking about taking another quarterback in the first round next year. All of those guys at the top of the board have flaws and questions themselves. There are no Peyton Mannings or Andrew Lucks on that list.
     
  20. FootballAnalyst98

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    That’s the same defense I saw a guy score in 13 seconds on in the playoffs last yr? What flaws does Bryce young have? Or stroud? And while they have some flaws thing is they have high level talent. Pickett is not a high level talent. I just see a guy. Throwing for a lot of yards in a literal ass whopping isn’t impressive.
     
  21. JackAttack 5958

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    Bryce Young is barely 6 ft. tall and there are those who are already questioning his arm strength. He also is surrounded by 5 star recruits at about every position. That would be like an NFL team having a first round draft pick at every position. We have way too many other needs to be thinking about drafting a QB in the first round in 2023.
     
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  22. FootballAnalyst98

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    so was joe burrow in college with his weapons. He literally in college had coming into this yr arguably two of the current top 5 wrs in the nfl in chase and JJ. It doesn’t matter. If you can play you can play.

    Height is no longer a question in the nfl lol kyler Murray was drafted first overall at 5’8 and panned out just fine. Russell Wilson is what 5’10 and going to be a first ballot hall of famer.

    I don’t see anyone questioning Bryce young’s arm. Where are you getting that from? He has a great arm. Much better arm than Pickett.

    I was strictly talking about the guy saying Pickett would be over stroud. Pickett wouldn’t even be a first round pick in this yes draft. He barely was one last draft. If the Steelers don’t take him he’s not going in the 1st.
     
  23. JackAttack 5958

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    Apparently somebody is questioning Young’s arm:

    https://heavy.com/sports/alabama-cr...size-and-arm-strength-a-concern-at-nfl-level/

    And you’re right about Burrow. But Pickett was NOT surrounded by 5 star recruits and he elevated the play of his teammates. Just look at how Pitt has regressed without him this year and that should tell you something about him. I’m cautiously optimistic about him at this point and he still has a lot to prove, but I think he has what it takes to be very good. If Khan drafts another quarterback in the first round next year and ignores all of the other areas of need we have, he should be fired immediately.
     
  24. Karl

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    The "what if's"

    I like what I've seen from Pickett thus far.
    He threw for a lot of yards, yes. Against a pretty stiff defense. (#2 overall Yds, 3 against the pass, 3 against the rush)
    I think Harris does need to be looked at, you cannot have a total of 54 yards rushing (10 of which were from the QB).
    Pittsburgh does need a RB that can go up the middle, not necessarily a Derrick Henry type of truck, but one that finds the gaps and gets through them.
    I like Harris, but something is wrong. He is breaking to the outside and fast defenses are not going to allow that.
     
  25. Blast Furnace

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    Pickett has it, does that mean he will be a top 5 QB in the league, no but he definitely looks like he can play at the pro level and be the next leader of this team.

    I believe he performed the best out of all the QB’s that have faced the Bills this season so far and he’s a rookie in his first ever NFL game. He’s going to be good. How good remains to be seen.
     
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