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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel_ben7, Oct 9, 2022.

  1. steel_ben7

    steel_ben7 Well-Known Member

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    He says he is open to change but he won’t have the balls to change anything. He won’t do it. Things just don’t change with this team with Tomlin leading the way. He is too stubborn to make any changes. So I’ll believe it when I see it.
     
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  2. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    I am no fan of Tomlin. However I'm willing to see what he does. Anyone should be able to realize that this offense is not working and needs to be changed.
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not sure that will matter if Tomlin is as hands on as I am beginning to think he is. Fichtner, Canada, I cant tell the difference in the offense. Tomlin is the constant that remains.

    Will take ownership intervention and I don’t mean firing Tomlin. Time to force him to bring in an established OC as he did with Haley.
     
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  4. chris2fer

    chris2fer Well-Known Member

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    I think Sean Peyton is unemployed just throwing that ou there. Mike has run off every decent coach he ever had so now he can only surround his self with under qualified coaches.
     
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  5. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Not going to happen during the season, but I’d give my eye teeth if Tomlin moved on and we brought in Sean Peyton as the HC. Can you imagine what that might do for the trajectory of Kenny Pickett’s career?
     
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  6. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    No one gets a pass on this defensive staff. No one.
     
  7. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    He would be a threat to Fragile Tomlin. Never going to happen.
     
  8. Karl

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    This will be rough. There is not a lot you can do once the season starts.

    I am taking note of the Giants, a really bad team that's doing great and the resurrection of Daniel Jones - whom I said all along could be a good QB with the right coach.
    Daboll has taken a poor roster and retuned it and is getting decent play out them.
    His offensive plan feeds the defense, which is nothing special at all, but they are playing way over their heads.

    Mike Tomlin, 15 years is a really long life in the NFL.
    If he wants to extend that, I think he's going to have to find the OC of a lifetime.
    I think our Front Office staff will supply them with the type of players they need.
    Mike may need to refocus his attention on the defense which is sloppy and uninspired. I am not impressed with Austin at all.
     
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  9. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    He didn't bring in Haley, Art II made that call as I believe you stated. If you look at the assistant coaches he has brought in or have promoted it's not a glaring positive.

    And if you have to force Tomlin to hire someone qualified as an owner it's time to look at replacing him.

    I would be hot on the phone to Sean Payton even Haley. Fire Canada ASAP. Won't happen because of fragility.

    And what do you do with this defensive staff? Tomlin is the leader in that room. They play scared. Flores has not made any difference. And Austin as well. How do you have your best player on defense in Minkah playing in the box and then they throw a 98 yard TD. How? The decision making is abysmal.

    And Bubble Yum time has expired as well.

    And the talent pool behind the starters :eek: Some will sit at the injury excuse. This team is not prepared. This lies at the head coach's feet.

    You look at all 3 phases of coaches and what do you see? All should be replaced. Tall task. So you clean house...
     
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  10. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    No one can defend a pass on the defensive unit either, so…:shrug:
     
  11. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Daboll came from the McDearmot coaching tree. He’s been a HC a fraction of the time Tomlin has and already has more of a coaching tree than Tomlin does. Some may think coaching trees are overrated, but it does indicate how much success and coaching development you have and how much respect the rest of the league has for what you’re doing. When was the last time another team came calling for one of our coordinators or assistant coaches?
     
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  12. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    nah keep it. Our shreve! It all makes sense now! We need a shreve whisperer stat!
     
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  13. Karl

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    True.
    That's sort of what I am alluding to. 15 years is an eternity in the NFL.
    If he wants to call it quits and move on, I am fine with that.
    If he wants to stay, he's going to have to mine out an OC and probably a DC (or he can lean more on that side)
    I agree with Daboll. McDermont has been a steady climb to the top, he's a good coach and looks to be headed for great things.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don’t want Haley, you can find good coaches without the toxicity. But Art has to step in again, I don’t know if Peyton would be open to a coordinator position but certainly that would be a quality hire.

    I’m not down on the defense like most seem to be, lot of injuries on that side of the ball. Would get rid of Austin though and promote Flores, too many chefs in the kitchen.
     
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  15. Blast Furnace

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    Hope this isn’t just hot air. Shake things up Tomlin.
     
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  16. Wardismvp

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    But what about Flores? He was suppose to be the next best thing since sliced bread.
     
  17. JackAttack 5958

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    I don’t think you get anymore with Flores than you do with Austin. Maybe to send a message you fire both Austin and Canada and replace them with Flores and Sullivan for the rest of the season and then regroup in the off season.
     
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  18. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it is the Head Coach?
     
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  19. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    We can wish!!!!!
     
  20. JackAttack 5958

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    Shhhh…you can’t say that here. It’s an unwritten rule.
     
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  21. Karl

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    There is something to be said there: Flores and Austin.
    I really hate giving up on a coach so soon but Austin's perception of playing strength to weakness is non-existent.
    Yes, there are a lot of injuries and that complicates the analysis.
    But one thing strikes me, and that looks like the players on the defensive side are not buying into his system.
     
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  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why? Im not sure what you guys are expecting out of Flores right now, hes the LB coach.
     
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  23. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn’t he supposed to come in and salvage Bush’s career? I’m not a Flores fan at all.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah and he has been playing better :shrug:

    I think this has more to do with his off field stuff than on field.
     
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  25. chris2fer

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    I mean to replace Tomlin with him.
     

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