Since I read so many steelers' nation calling for Coach T head who would be your coach

I see a lot of people from Steelers nation talking aboutour current coach. Now I know there have been plays called that I have evensaid C’mon man, but not once have I said he is a stupid mf or he need to pullhis head out his a***. We need to firehim and bring in a smarter coach. So I will post why I think he is a goodboarder line great Hall of Fame coach.
Stats for the first six years:
First year: 10-6 loss playoff
Second year: 12-4 super bowl champion
Third year: 9-7 worst year but winning record
Fourth year: 12-4 AFC champion, Loss super bowl
Fifth year: 12-4loss playoff
Current year: 6-4 (everyone hurt that has a name, butstill winning record).

IMHO why fire a coach who has not had a losing season insix years. So I ask this of my fellowfans.

(1) If you were the owner who would your coach be?

(2) Please show that coach record for the first six yearsto make it fair to Coach T first six years and if your coach had a losingrecord with in the first six years, then I will tell you he made some badcalls.

(3) If you a fantasy football owner how many times didyou lose and you see someone on your bench with more points than the started.Are you dumb or just made a bad call that week.

Lastly a summary of Coach T.: two super bowls (one win,one loss), 2 conference championship, and 4 division championship
(For the one's that is about to say Bill C. built that team 9times out of 10 every professional coach get left over superstars from theprevious coach. With that being said a coach still has to coach if you don't believeask the Chargers, Saints, and Cowboys)

 

OK Ill play how about Jon Gruden?

 

But, but, Gruden won with Dungy's players.

Records of Bucs with Gruden as HC
2002 - 12-4
2003 - 7-9
2004 - 5-11
2005 - 11-5
2006 - 4-12
2007 - 9-7
2008- 9-7

Safe to say people would be calling for Gruden's head with those records.

Tomlin as HC
2007 - 10-6
2008- 12-4
2009 - 9-7
2010 - 12-4
2011 - 12-4

 

Oh I dont want gruden Im thrilled with coach T I was just answering his question

 

Waiting on Gruden stats for the first six years oh yeah he lost the super bowl right? Second if you remember Coach T and Gruden was both on the same coaching staff. hmmmmmm

 

I want to know who has called for Tomlin's head? I've just seen people saying that he was stupid.

 

I'm not calling for Tomlins head but there are definitely better coaches out there so I'll play..
Brian Kelley had taken a near nothing Cincinnati team and had them playing in a BCS bowl game within 2 seasons. Now just two seasons later he is 11-0 with ND and more than likely will be leading his team to a National Championship.
He gets more out of average players than any other coach I've seen before.

 

I will get back with you on how many College coaches fail in the NFL. ( I not being funny, I don't know but just from memory a lot of college coaches do not do well in the NFL.)

 

Just check out the complaint thread

 

I personally can't stand Tomlin as a coach. I think he's the most overrated coach in the league. Tomlin is too busy being friends with the players instead of holding them accountable. He doesn't pull players who aren't performing up to expectations, he allows players to continue to play when they are obviously far too injured to be of any use, he allows this team to take the competition lightly rather than having that killer instinct, he permits this team to constantly draw flags with no repercussions, etc, etc, etc. I've listed all these things in the past and those discussions will go the same way this one will. Me and other anti-Tomlin guys will list all the reasons we don't like him, and the pro-Tomlin guys will just list his record, as if that's proof of him being a good coach.

I could have won a SB with that 2008 team if I was the head coach. He inherited a great team that knew how to win and he rode it and continues to ride it. Sure, the Cowher era long ended, but the Colbert era is still going strong, and Tomlin has been blessed with a ton of talented players, far more talent than most other coaches in the league. Despite that, we are constantly unimpressive. Every now and then we play very well against a good team, but mostly every game we play is mistake filled, penalty filled and ugly. Many times we sneak out an ugly win, but we rarely play a solid 60 minutes and haven't seen Tomlin came to town. We were a hard hitting, intense team that could run the ball on anybody and had a killer instinct. Now, we couldn't run the ball to save our lives, we get pushed around by other physical teams, and there's nothing intense about us. We're not the Pittsburgh Steelers I grew up watching. We're not even close to any Steeler team I ever remember having. Coach Tomlin has created this finesse team that is desperately trying to hang onto the image of a hard hitting, ground and pound team.

I'd take half the coaches in the league over Tomlin, including either Harbaugh.

 

I wouldn't call for Tomlin's job, either, BUT...my faith in his ability to lead this team has been shaken.

 

just curious were you around doing the 80's and most of the 90's when Bill could not win the big game. You say half the coach in the league is better I don't know about half but Belicheat credit, Which Harbaugh brother won a super bowl or lose a super bowl? Speaking of talent what coach took Dallas to the super bowl I think Jimmy Johnson left great players. Look at the Saints talent but before the intern coach what was there record. Chargers talent what is there record. Detroit, Cin, shall I go on so I would venture to say T with all the name injuries is doing a hellava job to be at 6-4. Be honest when Ben got hurt or before the win streak I did read how the season was over, Ray Rice will run for years, E. Manning, Flaco will pick us apart. so where the surprise we lost to the rat birds. I am sorry T should have not fumble and damn it why did he make that tackle on the punt return. Like DL stated I can put you in the position but up to the player to make the play

 

greg shiano. he reminds me of a steeler type coach.

 

This is a waste of time we all know the Steelers don't fire their HC, Tomlin just signed a contract extension so he's not going anywhere.

 

I'm not on board with canning Tomlin but I do have some serious problems with some of his methods. I don't like the fact that he says there is one "standard" but then DOESN'T bench Wallace when he fumbles but DOES bench Dwyer. TWO GAMES! Also I don't like his stupid platitudes that he uses. Also I agree that we have WAY too many stupid penalties. His clock management is ATROCIOUS and always has been. His platitudes also very much annoy me. I think the Rooney's MIGHT have been sending him a message when they didn't renew BA's contract. I mean Tomlin said he wanted him back and judging by that the Rooney's overruled him. Yes Cowher wasn't perfect but the thing about Cowher was the he held EVERYONE accountable. Cowher benched Holmes. Cowher benched Ike. I DON'T think Tomlin is a disciplinarian. I think since he's from the Dungy coaching tree that he's just naturally more passive. Now with all that said I still do have to consider his record and the fact that just 2 years ago we did make it to the Super Bowl with HIS guys. So until he starts REALLY losing a LOT of games WITH the starters in there I say we keep him in SPITE of all the other crap. BUT even Tomlin himself said when he was asked if he felt he had ultimate NFL job security because the Rooney's are so faithful he said "no. because the guys before me WON." So I think until he starts LOSING he will be here. But yes he has MANY things that annoy me. Fair or unfair that's just the way it is.

 

Ironically it was almost Pitt that knocked them off though wasn't it? I don't keep up with college really but I did watch some of that game.

 

I love playing these "what it" games. But before I say anything more let me be very clear that any talk of TOmlin being removed is pure lunacy. Now, to answer the question:

I wanted Hue Jackson as our OC, so I'd be willing to give him a shot as our HC. I think Mark Davis/Reggie McKenzie went braindead when they fired him from Oakland.

 

One of the best coaching decisions i have seen was a couple of seasons ago.
Coach Ts call for that onside kick against Greenbay was brilliant.
His comment "we couldn't stop them and they couldn't stop us, if we kick off they will just use all the clock and leave us with no time."
Who could forget Wallace's catch in the end zone. Still have that picture.
That call was on a 5 game losing streak and when we were in the lead.
The commentry couldn't believe he would make such a call.
How many other coaches would have made that call.
After a 6-2 start to be then 6-7 and end up the season at 9-7.
Who knows where we would be now without the injuries.
Ds looking good, secondary great and the O line is coming on.
Well done Coach T

 

I am not sure how many people are calling for coach T's head, All we are
advocating is that he does not walk on water like some of you think. I question his clock management
and and his unwillingness to play young people skills.He inherited a Ferrari as a team, lot of talent on the team
and in the coaching ranks, He can get better.

 

Have you seen Brian Kelleys success with average players his entire career?
He gets a 100% + out of the average player week in and week out every game which ultimately leads to team success on the field.

Pete Carrol has the Seahawks really close to being Championship caibre so don't say that college coaches cannot get it done.

If Kelley has ND as the National Champions this year I predict that he will be a very hot commodity for being an NFL coach in 2013. There are numerous teams that will be interviewing him. Cleveland, Jacksonville, Arizona, Kansas City among others will have his phone ringing off the hook.

I'm telling you the players play hard for the guy and he doesn't give two cares whether he is friendlly with them or not.

As for the Pitt comment. Pitt's biggest rivalry is ND these past few years. They wanted nothing more than to knock them out of the top 5. Too bad it was a high snap on the OT field goal or we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

Many successful college coaches can't coach in the NFL, because they don't get a competitive advantage. Show me a college coach turns around programs, and I'll show you a coach who knows how to pay, er, I mean, "recruit" top talent. Saban and Petrino both got out of the NFL as fast as they could because of these circumstances. It's another reason why Steve Spurrier and Lou Holtz stunk in the NFL. Pete Carroll was a pro coach, first, by the way.