Too Many Holes To Trade Up

I wanted Dickerson.... he is at guard today but will be a center when Kelce hangs it up...IMO


And I was saying i could see both sides....all the late round guys still fit my goal...2 starters per draft

I picked 2 recent drafts... and to get the guys I mentioned (which were my picks not the Steelers) would not have cost every other pick so you would still have more..but theoretically

What if the Steelers took just
BEN and Deangelo Hall

Vs
Ben
Coclough
Starks
Adibi
Lacy
Krancheck
Caylor
Taylor

By no means was I implying that anyone on uhg lists are or were a bust..... more like would you
Trade a depth draft full of guys with solid careers.... for 2 guaranteed superstars

Like Shazier and Aaron Donald

Basically trade Tuiit, Dri Archer, M Bryant, McCullers and 4 other guys for Donald?

I'm OK with that.. but you better make the right choices... pick your guys and go get them

HACK

 

Would very much like to see us fix O-line and do so with some depth. Need receivers too. Go for QB next year and have O-line in place that will prevent a young QB from being destroyed in 2023. Yes, this means mailing it in this year, but we are only team in the division without a franchise QB. Going nowhere with Trubisky, token playoff team again at best. Perfect time to plan ahead, set up 2023 season.

 

I might put money down that either Ickey or Charles could be in play. For whatever reason, the Panthers really keep entertaining that idea. That said, while it does seem silly on Rhule's part to draft one, Scott Fritterer might just overrule him on this one.


Remember that Scott Fritterer had worked in Seattle for an entire generation; this previous half gen looking at what Russel Wilson went through. While I can imagine he is not too keen on missing out on a QB, not protecting that investment is far more terrifying for him; doubly so seeing what Joe Burrow has had to go through for the past two seasons.


Now, if somehow, someway, Ickey falls to the Panthers at 6, all bets will be off QB wise. Ickey can not only man the blindside but also be a run grading force for Christian McCaffrey.

 

Howell could very well be another contingency option. Yes Corral also fits in here but Howell is younger and possess a better arm. Corral has superior mobility but Howell is mobile enough and, thanks to his arm, can perform more off script throws or create off script plays in greater frequency than Corral can.



However, I do not believe the Steelers would be selecting Howell at 20. Rather, what I can see is Colbert trading back into the first round to nab him later on. My question then becomes who is the 20th pick?! Now, Kevin Colbert has never done this; the Steelers having never done this.... ever. That being said, since 2019, Kevin Colbert has been going very much against the grain in terms of some of the moves he has made.



Who is to say he does not have one more big move left in him?!

 

why wouldn't they take him at 20? they took edmunds in the first. they took jarvis jones in the first. you don't think they would take a qb? now just because some draft niks have him falling off doesn't mean everybody does. howell as of last year was the prize. i like corral as well but i think kevin likes howell and has since last year. i don't think he would have a problem pulling the trigger at 20 anymore then he had pulling it on edmunds in the first.

 

This only works in hindsight. I’m sure there are plenty of your preferences over the last 20 years that wouldn’t have worked out as well. Plus you sacrifice depth and building out the roster. Plus there were already two starters in your example in Ben and Starks, and we won two Super Bowls with them. Did the other picks pan out? No, but at least you have multiple opportunities to find contributors.

 

Good point and shows we really have no idea whatvhe is thinking. Lol

 

They have not Drafted a Qb in the 1st since Cam. They have kept trying 2 fix this with others leftovers. Something tells Me Pickett will Be their Man.

 

Hell I gave a small list of players We would not have got that Helped Us go 2 the SBs if We did it that way. Ike Taylor, L. Foote, AB, Chris Hope, and more are all players that Helped 2 reach a SB, and all were players drafted beyond the 2nd round. Not talking 2 You....Just using your post 2 jump off.

 

It's not hind sight at all...I named my top 2 guys in every scenario I listed.
Would it be better to say this year Kyle Hamilton and Devon Lloyd
Or
Ekwonu and Jordan Davis

Maybe they are all busts... but if you told me they could grab any 2 of those 4 and call it a day...I would be interested to see their career vs the other 6 rounds of guys the steelers will choose

As I said..I can see both sides

The draft is a lottery ticket... so yes 8 tickets give you more chances than 2..... but if you pick the right #s, 2 is all you need.

HACK

 

Yupp and they have a owner whos impatient. They definitely will likely make some type of move. The smart thing would be for them to tank until next yr.

 

Tanking ever is just about as far from smart as an idea could be.

 

So basically become the Pre Chuck Noll Steelers?! No thanks.

 

I actually looked at the success rate of QB drafted over the last 25 years. Now what constitutes a "success" is somewhat subjective but it came down to 30% for first round QB, 20% for second round, 10% for third, and practically zero after that with a few notable exceptions.

 

So we take one in each of the first 2 rounds for 2 years and we are set

 

why if you're team sucks and you need a QB? You're guaranteed picks in the NFL if you have the worst record. It isn't a lottery like the NBA.

 

im talking about the panthers. not the steelers.....

 

It’s not a video game

If you want to have a winning organization you do it all the time

Otherwise you are Cleveland

 

Because....name one time it's worked for a team.

 

Winner
Lions, Jags, Browns, and Dolphins have had many a top draft pick. How's it doing for them.
So Yes I'm agree with You

 

Colts tanked for luck. I think the jags tanked for Lawrence.

 

and we tank for russia

we're not tanking for Stroud, we're trading up for Stroud, there's a difference apart from the legal and the moral

 

Once again I was talking about the panthers. Not he steelers. The steelers don't have what you will call a impatient owner.

 

So How did that workout for the Colts???
I believe No SBs, and a Qb that retired really early.....So fail, and the Jags ....Well We shall have 2 see.

 

How was that a fail. They secured luck. No they didn't win a sb but that doesn't make it a fail. NY your logic everyone should just wait to the 6th round hoping to get a tom brady since he's won more sbs than anybody.